Re: Dave's comment about the cheese bank - if you put your gold into cheddar, and don't bait your trap with it, the mice can't nick it, can they? I've found the cheddar bank thing quite handy. You just make sure store cheddar which you never use in the higer level areas. Problem solved (ish).
- This accomplishes nothing - If you have no gold they steal the cheese baited on your trap. This means they steal expensive cheese instead of your cheddar that you have banked. Keeping in mind that the number of pieces are rounded up based on how much gold they would of stolen it means they steal more gold worth of cheese than they would of actually stolen in gold. I'm a game developer and personally coded this part of the game - Trust me, you're worse off. Dave Vanderburg 18:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Showing posts with label bank. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bank. Show all posts
Cheese Banking No Longer Works
For gamers of old that have used this exploit, the devs have revealed that this strategy does not work.
Larder items:
bank,
Jester-tip
Jester's Cheese Sweet Spot Strategy
I think I've found the sweet spot for the number of cheese of each type I should be bringing into the tough-mice areas.
Tough mice areas are where mice can steal your cheese/gold/score when they raid your trap. These are areas accessible to hunters above the Novice class.
Sweet spot for cheese? This means the amount of cheese that you as the hunter carries into that area and experience the minimal frequency of cheese theft in your hunt duration there. Note I said cheese theft.
You will still experience score-theft, but the King's rewards frequently puts this back.
You will still experience gold-theft, but lesser when you go in broke. Broke? Read my Cheese-Bank Tag. Your gold-theft usually increases as you gain success catching mice as your pot increases. If you go into the area (e.g. mountain) broke, your first 20-40k of gold is almost untouched. It starts getting bad closer to 60k, but by then, you would be close to returning to the town to reload your cheese.
Back to the sweet spot. I've arrived to these numbers by trying out 50/80/100/150 pieces of cheese for each type and the number so far works for me (note the caveats) at the harbour, the mountain and the Lab. I'm still new to the Mousoleum, but I suspect that the numbers are about the same. Without being too mathematical, I've factored in the stolen rate of the cheese and the gold, and the travel fare for the area. I've found that these cheese sweet spot numbers hold well for me.
Brie : 90
Swiss : 80
Marble : 80
Cheddar : used as bank
I've not reached the point where I own a Drillbot yet, but I suspect that having a stronger mousetrap in a relatively weaker area (like harbour) will benefit your cheese-theft ratio.
Larder items:
bank,
cheese,
Jester-tip
Cheese Bank
Jester Nim wrote on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Just crossed over the apprentice bar yesterday and hurried over to the Harbour armed with a treb/stone with lotsa cheese of every type.
Boy, was I pillaged by fierce mice..
30 swiss were stolen (excl eaten and stale) within my first 3 hours!
Tip Title : Banking Facility for your Gold
One of the tough things ex-novices learn at the harbour is that mice can steal anything from you.
But not everything!
Yes, they can steal your score and your gold and your cheese. But NOT ALL your cheese. Only the cheese type that you have baited. That means if you have baited marble cheese and a burglar/pirate mouse comes happily along, it can only take the extra cheese from this type. The other cheese types are untouched.
How does this help you?
When you are stocking up cheese in Gnawnia, you're probably going to buy a sizeable quantity of every type because the bus fare to the harbour is 1000 gold. I won't comment yet on the quantity to buy because I'm still testing some numbers.
However, you're probably going to realize that cheddar is pretty useless as bait for the harbour. You will therefore USE CHEDDAR as your ZERO-TAX BANKING FACILITY.
Yes folks, buy what you need of all other types of cheese to enable hunting action. The remaining of your gold pieces, buy cheddar. Leave only enough for your bus fare (1000 gold). You are now READY to go to the harbour.
If the mice really do clean you out of cheese and earned gold, you can still return to town free and refund your bank of cheddar.
NEVER BAIT YOUR BANK (cheddar) !
Cheers,
Burglar Mouse at the Harbour
Townsend Duong (Stanford) replied to Louis's post
on Jul 2, 2008 at 4:39 AM
Louis, the Burglar mouse was introduced after Demi originally wrote this walk-through, and the Harbour subsequently became more risky.
As a result, some hunters delay going to the Harbour until they have a more powerful trap than the Treb/Stone originally recommended. Maybe the Rocketine will be more popular now with its greater power. After all, the Rocketine/Stone is almost as powerful as the Treb/Explosive and costs about half as much gold.
You can protect some of your gold by using it all to buy cheese before going to the Harbour, but that will only last until you start to earn gold from your catches. The Burglar mouse seems to be the most dangerous, so changing your cheese might be a way to reduce his appearances. This is probably too early to be using Brie anyway.
Townsend Duong (Stanford) replied to Louis's post
on Jul 2, 2008 at 5:08 AM
It's definitely a risk vs reward choice to go hunt in the Harbour. It always was, but the Pirate mouse used to be the main concern. The Burglar mouse can swipe as much as 3000 points and is fairly common in the Harbour.
You should worry most about gaining gold so that you will be able to upgrade. You only need to keep enough points to meet the requirements for the next trap component (I'd recommend Swiss Army in your case). Stolen points don't take away experience toward the next hunter level, so you won't be set back in terms of advancing in the game. Also, offset your point losses by sounding the horn yourself as much as possible.
Once you go to the Mountain, virtually every mouse can steal from you, but the vast majority of mice are Dwarf or better, so every catch is valuable. You might have 1000 points stolen on one hunt and then have that erased on the next hunt by catching a 5 oz Diamond mouse worth 1195 points.
Larder items:
apprentice,
bank,
burglar-mouse,
harbour,
trap
The Cheese Bank
Garry John Riechert (Australia) wrote
on May 13, 2008 at 7:04 PM
If you go to the harbour or mountains, change all your gold into cheese.
When you do you should have 80+ cheese, but if you had 500+ that is no real matter because you can always refund any cheese back into gold at 100%.
Better to wait a little in town to get the gold to get more cheese than to waste 4500gold going back because you ran out of cheese. Normally when you first go to the harbour/moutains you are tight for gold so travelling back and forth just to buy cheese seems counterproductive.
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